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Hi all,

  How would everyone feel about deleting all of the time-based folders and opting for ones more specific? Like free-verse, beginners helping beginners, for critiques, ect. Or we could keep them, there are just so many. What we have now is just not working.

  Put your word in and let us know. Are there folders you would like in particular?

    Cheers,
         i-lie
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Ozerax Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2012  Student General Artist
Not so sure how you would begin to classify a beginner. There are a lot of different approaches to that, and having one may cause a lot of complications unless you are extremely specific what you want in that folder, even then it can be tricky within the artist themselves. I would say to just have a critique folder for everyone who wants constructive criticism on their work. That would be easier.

And the deletion of time based folders would be for the best, I assume. I don't run a group, but if I'm right, it might be a hassle, because I think some of the submitions might disappear. :shrugs: not sure though, but if that were the case, well, do what you have to do. Just get rid of the time system and go for the basic categories, like tragedy and romance. Poem style categories could work, but more people might find it easier to find what they want in genre categories. That's my two cents though.

Do what has to be done, I just want to submit some poems... it was really disheartening joining, going to post my first poem and finding out I can't submit...
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MySongIsLaughter Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I think it would be good to either sort things by style (eg free verse, sonnet etc) or by subject (Comedy, Tragedy etc)

I think having a Beginners' folder isn't such a good idea. How do people decide if they're a beginner? I wouldn't personally count myself as a beginner as I've been writing poetry since I could hold a pencil, so I "began" a long time ago, but I am an amatuer and perhaps people who are more serious about it might want my work in that catagory.
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Deus-Suetonius Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
we have 8,000+ members. keep the folders we have and create new ones. maybe ask people to resubmit their poems before you delete the original folders?
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ShadowRising Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
That would be nice and make it easier to know which folder your submission belongs to. But I do agree with a few others that getting too specific might be tedious. So maybe a broad brush for folders?
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MarcusPenrose Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
You could make thing simple and divide the folders into the same categories as DeviantArt does at the end of each category thread. That and a separate folder for mature content.
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Mayumi89 Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2012
I'm seeing a general agreement that a change would be no bad thing. Personally I think a few folders separating poems by style rather than time gives people more of an idea what they're looking at when they are first approaching the group. A simple time-stamp can be a little intimidating since you have no idea what people have submitted in that time-frame. I would suggest having a folder for those actively seeking critiques to improve their work, and then the rest can be sorted into free-verse, fixed form, prose, and such, possibly with a folder for the admin's highlights for the week/month.
I would also highly recommend adding a folder for mature content. Poetry can often be an expression of your deepest and most intense thoughts and feelings; and what inspires that doesn't always mesh with the sensibilities of a younger or more sheltered audience. I think people should be perfectly free to post those things, but I also think others deserve to know what they're getting into before reading something that may bother them or bring up emotional pain.
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Invoking Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I second this.
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OmniaVanitus Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2012
I like the idea of changing up the folders. Maybe if you did that have a short time period like a month so for people to resubmit their peices (if you end up deleting everything).
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LaBruyere Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2012  Student Writer
I like the idea of broad genres-- like Eastern fixed form, Western fixed form, prose, free verse, spoken word, featured, etc.
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angelenroute Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2012  Professional Writer
I'm open to whatever, but as a newbie here, I think you should make a command decision if you know what hasn't worked for the group in the past. We need a structure that can work universally and without chronology. A submitted poem in a folder can get responses that hour or years later.

Perhaps (don't even know if it's possible) a way of knowing which poems have received no response. Only quality pieces should be submitted to begin with, but everything received should get some kind of feedback from someone.

Maybe the more favorites a poem gets, the more likely it is to receive thorough critiques from mods or other poets. We could even determine a number of favorites is needed?

I'm not sure! =) Just throwing out ideas, but you/others know best.

Warm wishes to anyone reading this!
Sean
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